2008-05-23T00:01:57 Consistent failure with fedora's wiki. 2008-05-23T00:03:06 ricky: just with fedora's wiki though or with the other sites too? maybe it'd be best to test for consistancy against a known working consumer. 2008-05-23T00:03:08 Some success with wikitravel.org, but not consistent (even if I clear database tables and restart TG) 2008-05-23T00:03:36 Consistent success with http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/diagnose-server 2008-05-23T00:04:18 And pretty consistent failure with LJ too :-( 2008-05-23T00:04:33 I just can't keep track of what's changing between these request.s 2008-05-23T00:04:37 hahaha, works with openidenabled.com and constant failure with LJ 2008-05-23T00:06:20 ricky: you working from pt10 or your local copy? 2008-05-23T00:07:00 Local copy of samadhi right now, I can move to publictest10 if you'd like. 2008-05-23T00:07:24 * ricky does that 2008-05-23T00:07:51 *** jmtaylor has quit IRC 2008-05-23T00:08:43 * ricky hijacks port 8099 2008-05-23T00:10:00 *** hanthana has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T00:11:04 *** bpepple has quit IRC 2008-05-23T00:11:24 http://publictest10.fedoraproject.org:8099/, username/password: test/test 2008-05-23T00:11:57 Well, livejournal worked for once, cool. 2008-05-23T00:12:33 ricky: have you tried going back to the old proxypass way? Instead of mod_wsgi? 2008-05-23T00:12:39 perhaps there's still memory stuff going on. 2008-05-23T00:12:53 *** notting has quit IRC 2008-05-23T00:12:56 If we can make it consistant without mod_wsgi but it is inconsistant with mod_wsgi then we've got something being stored in memory. 2008-05-23T00:13:15 I'm running a completely unmodifed single samadhi with ./start-samadhi.py and sessions in memory. 2008-05-23T00:14:08 2008-05-23T00:14:21 mmcgrath: By the way, where is openid configured for the publictest2 wiki? 2008-05-23T00:15:02 Ah, /usr/share/mediawiki/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.setup.php 2008-05-23T00:15:29 ricky: /usr/share/mediawiki/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.setup.php 2008-05-23T00:15:31 oh, yeah :) 2008-05-23T00:15:53 Woah, it worked for once! 2008-05-23T00:16:14 OK, so now to increase the variation little by little. 2008-05-23T00:16:17 i have learned that i will not be here between about 1pm and 4pm CDT tomorrow. 2008-05-23T00:16:25 Should we go for wsgi next, or postgres sessions next? 2008-05-23T00:16:27 which is 1800-2100 UTC 2008-05-23T00:16:31 so, just fyi 2008-05-23T00:18:35 * ricky tests with samadhi using postgres instead of sqlite. 2008-05-23T00:18:41 (and memory for sessions) 2008-05-23T00:20:19 * ricky stops FAS/apache on publictest10 while testing this. 2008-05-23T00:20:26 ianweller: thanks. 2008-05-23T00:22:38 *** shenson_not_here is now known as shenson 2008-05-23T00:34:59 mmcgrath: Switching sessions + DB to postgres made livejournal + fedora wiki + wikitravel fail 2008-05-23T00:35:50 * ricky tries switching sessions back to memory. 2008-05-23T00:37:03 OK, and still fail. 2008-05-23T00:37:15 *** devrimgunduz|zzz has quit IRC 2008-05-23T00:39:31 *** mbonnet has quit IRC 2008-05-23T00:39:32 That's a really strange place to have errors come from. 2008-05-23T00:42:41 *** viking-ice_ has quit IRC 2008-05-23T00:48:21 *** shenson is now known as shenson_not_here 2008-05-23T00:57:22 * ricky celebrates a birthday, then goes 2008-05-23T00:58:12 Feel free to 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to our Trac space :( 2008-05-23T09:27:59 mmcgrath, itz in ur builder eating ur resources? 2008-05-23T09:28:11 f13: yeah i've seen them 2008-05-23T09:28:18 kanarip: seems so. 2008-05-23T09:28:24 but it doesn't do anything (straceable)? 2008-05-23T09:28:34 ok, i'm going to kill it then 2008-05-23T09:28:42 how easy it to integrate spamassassin into postfix? i've never done it before 2008-05-23T09:28:48 it attached to the process but I didn't see any instructions go through which... well I've never seen that before. 2008-05-23T09:29:02 jcollie: should be pretty easy 2008-05-23T09:29:02 nevermind the collateral, this isn't funny anymore 2008-05-23T09:29:16 jcollie: its pretty easy. 2008-05-23T09:29:43 is that something we just want on all the hosts that run postfix? 2008-05-23T09:30:14 jcollie: I'd think only the hosts that receive mail 2008-05-23T09:30:15 thanks mmcgrath ;-) 2008-05-23T09:30:19 I bet the perl package was stuck in a make check. 2008-05-23T09:30:32 make test, yeah 2008-05-23T09:30:44 perl-- 2008-05-23T09:30:48 i removed one but then it got stuck at the next one 2008-05-23T09:30:52 ppc-- 2008-05-23T09:30:53 mmcgrath: it'd probably just be easier to do 'em all instead of special casing certain machines 2008-05-23T09:31:00 'Its friday! You know what that means!!! I don't have a mailbox... again. 2008-05-23T09:31:17 *** glezos has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:31:20 *** trochala has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:31:25 mmcgrath: enterprise quality. 2008-05-23T09:31:37 jcollie: we have special cases for those machines anyway. 2008-05-23T09:31:48 yeah i suppose 2008-05-23T09:31:50 *** jortel has quit IRC 2008-05-23T09:32:26 *** bpepple has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:32:33 do we want to run clamav too? 2008-05-23T09:33:10 *** hanthana has quit IRC 2008-05-23T09:33:34 jcollie: on the receiving hosts yes. There's actually a ticket open for this. Postfix is ready on bastion (the configs are even on there already but not in puppet) but aren't active yet. 2008-05-23T09:35:09 *** cyberpear has left #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:35:47 f13: syncing data over to archive.fp.o 2008-05-23T09:35:52 *** bretm has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:35:55 f13: so we can offload 2008-05-23T09:35:58 *** hanthana has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:39:34 *** jortel has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:39:49 *** mizmo has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:39:58 mmcgrath: i don't see anything regarding spam in the postfix configs on bastion... 2008-05-23T09:42:03 just the postfix configs are there, not the spam and clamav stuff. I was going to do it already but have been busy with the wiki. 2008-05-23T09:42:22 jcollie: if you've got time feel free to test and work on that stuff 2008-05-23T09:44:25 not too much time right now... especially since i've never done it before... if no one else gets around to it i'll set up a test host and figure it out there first 2008-05-23T09:46:03 skvidal: ah yes. 2008-05-23T09:46:09 skvidal: I was wondering when that would come up. 2008-05-23T09:46:27 jcollie: clamav might be overkill for now IMHO 2008-05-23T09:46:48 jcollie: I might poke at it today since I care about it now (: 2008-05-23T09:47:14 *** fab has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:47:25 f13: feel free... i'm not a postfix guru so it'd take me a while to figure it out anyway 2008-05-23T09:48:23 yeah, it's been a few years since I did postfix, but I think I can still hum a few bars. 2008-05-23T09:48:36 *** danishka_ has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:49:21 The postfix part is easy as long you've already got spamd running 2008-05-23T09:49:32 wfp: we don't (: 2008-05-23T09:51:02 *** notting has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:51:30 *** juhp has quit IRC 2008-05-23T09:56:30 *** jortel has quit IRC 2008-05-23T09:56:50 *** devrimgunduz has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T09:58:02 mmcgrath: is this the right ticket for getting spamd running? 2008-05-23T09:58:07 .ticket 333 2008-05-23T09:58:08 f13: #333 (Add spam headers to bastion (smtp)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/333 2008-05-23T09:58:28 f13: thats the one. 2008-05-23T09:58:32 mmcgrath: does it only need to happen on bastion, IE does all mail to our stuff bounce through bastion, or would we need it at the end points like hosted1 and collab1? 2008-05-23T09:59:37 I'd say all endpoints. Thats an old ticket though, those other endpoints didn't exist when we made the ticket :) 2008-05-23T10:00:22 I suppose ideally we may want to create another smtp server like bastion, open port 25 up to bastion and have it be the primary smtp server for all of our traffic. 2008-05-23T10:00:23 *** mbonnet has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:00:27 (bypassing red hat altogether) 2008-05-23T10:00:36 thats a bit more work though. 2008-05-23T10:00:53 f13: so, how you wanna do this? 2008-05-23T10:01:13 mmcgrath: i thought that was the plan 2008-05-23T10:01:34 using smtp.fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T10:01:37 f13: or a better way of saying it 2008-05-23T10:01:47 f13: I'll do it - where are the files? 2008-05-23T10:01:48 hrm. 2008-05-23T10:02:13 dgilmore: it is but no one's had the time to do it. 2008-05-23T10:02:18 skvidal: I need to find out from spot where that HP box went. It has all the content we want. Otherwise we'd just rsync it from PHX 2008-05-23T10:02:27 except some of it is now missing from phx, so humm. 2008-05-23T10:02:30 hahaha 2008-05-23T10:02:34 * skvidal cries just a little 2008-05-23T10:02:41 hi 2008-05-23T10:02:48 mmcgrath: damn, that does sound like a lot of work, I was hoping to just toss spamd up on hosted1 and hook that postfix into it. 2008-05-23T10:02:50 o/~ data, data, whose got the data? o/~ 2008-05-23T10:02:54 I could duplicate for collab1 too I suppose. 2008-05-23T10:03:06 skvidal: it's on the box that HP gave us, and spot should know where that box is currently. 2008-05-23T10:03:36 * mmcgrath notes HP is also giving us a box with about 4.5T of usable data 2008-05-23T10:03:43 err usable storage. 2008-05-23T10:03:46 let's not get those two mixed up 2008-05-23T10:03:55 mmcgrath: I can give 4.5T of usable data! 2008-05-23T10:03:58 naw, the big one's getting shipped to PHX. 2008-05-23T10:04:09 skvidal: /dev/zero isn't data :-P 2008-05-23T10:04:09 * skvidal wget's -r random google searches 2008-05-23T10:04:23 yeah thats data 2008-05-23T10:04:42 mmcgrath: whats the data? 2008-05-23T10:04:52 hopefully not Pr0n or movies 2008-05-23T10:04:58 step 1: "wget's -r random google searches" step 2: ??? step 3: profit!!!! 2008-05-23T10:05:07 skvidal: you gotta make sure you set --user-agent, google doesn't like wget. 2008-05-23T10:05:32 ;) 2008-05-23T10:05:35 mmcgrath: I honestly don't want to get into HP's thing. They dropped off a box in Westford's office, I don't even know what it looks like, but I think it just has a couple sata disks in it. Maybe software raid 2008-05-23T10:05:37 ianweller: :) 2008-05-23T10:05:45 but without a palce to rack it, we told them thanks, but uh... not helpful. 2008-05-23T10:06:01 well, rack it and hang it off the Internet 2008-05-23T10:06:08 * ianweller continues working on his IRCLog extension 2008-05-23T10:06:09 f13: you can rack it in my basement :) 2008-05-23T10:06:09 f13: I'll bug spot 2008-05-23T10:06:15 spot: ping! 2008-05-23T10:06:52 *** hanthana has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:09:16 jcollie: i hit one snag with lists.fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T10:09:26 yah? 2008-05-23T10:09:59 when i set reply to list the replyto: was set at fedora-secondary-list@fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T10:10:10 not @lists.fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T10:10:46 i think i want to rename the lsit to fedora-architectures@lists.fp.o 2008-05-23T10:11:48 actually, can we drop the "fedora-" prefix? 2008-05-23T10:11:50 *** danishka_ has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:11:55 *** J5 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:12:05 *** Londo_ has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:12:58 why? 2008-05-23T10:13:26 redundancy iguess, since we have "fedoraproject" in the domain 2008-05-23T10:14:32 in that case I think leaving fedora is ok. 2008-05-23T10:14:45 since secondary is very generic and this particular list is specific to fedora. 2008-05-23T10:15:08 fedora-elf-utils would be a little weird since its a more global project. But fedora-secondary seems approperate to me. 2008-05-23T10:15:25 mmcgrath: or fedora-architectures 2008-05-23T10:16:24 hmm i guess we're gonna get a wierd mix of lists with/without fedora- prefix though 2008-05-23T10:16:51 shouldn't we limit the *@lists.fedoraproject.org to fedora-related matters though? 2008-05-23T10:17:29 elf-utils could use @lists.fedorahosted.org since they are a project there 2008-05-23T10:18:01 jcollie: i think it depends on what the list is about 2008-05-23T10:18:14 rel-eng@lists.fp.o makes sense 2008-05-23T10:18:22 if it's a hosted project's mailing list? 2008-05-23T10:18:25 *** shenson_not_here is now known as shenson 2008-05-23T10:18:38 I wonder if it's time to come up with a more generic name/domain for the Hosted stuff.. 2008-05-23T10:18:49 but fedora-architectures or fedora-secondary makes sense to me 2008-05-23T10:18:51 *** notting has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:18:52 fedorahosted is perhaps /too/ Fedora branded :/ 2008-05-23T10:19:07 i would find secondary@ or architectures@ kinda odd 2008-05-23T10:19:21 the project is fedora secondary architectures 2008-05-23T10:20:05 *** petreu has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:20:50 f13: I've seen upstream stuff using alioth.debian.org for svn etc... 2008-05-23T10:21:14 f13: don't see why we should have a problem with the name fedora in there. 2008-05-23T10:22:02 dgilmore: ping 2008-05-23T10:23:08 mbonnet: pong 2008-05-23T10:23:27 *** webbj has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:23:41 ixs: +1 2008-05-23T10:23:46 dgilmore: what would you think about setting max_repo_tasks=3 in kojira.conf? 2008-05-23T10:23:56 to avoid flooding koji with newRepo tasks? 2008-05-23T10:24:46 i wouldnt be apposed to it. however some users complain that newRepo doesnt happen soon enough already 2008-05-23T10:26:03 mbonnet: maybe set it to 6 or 8 2008-05-23T10:26:12 8 would be one job per host in theory 2008-05-23T10:27:25 dgilmore: the problem is that each newRepo starts by querying the same db table repeatedly, so multiple concurrent newRepo tasks slow each other down 2008-05-23T10:28:59 *** giarc_w has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:29:54 mbonnet: we can try and see if it speeds things up and we run newRepo more often 2008-05-23T10:30:08 mbonnet: if it seems to hurt we can always revert 2008-05-23T10:30:28 mbonnet: so have at it. we can give it a whirl 2008-05-23T10:30:39 dont forget koji is going down tonight 2008-05-23T10:30:55 right 2008-05-23T10:31:02 ok, I'll make the change in puppet 2008-05-23T10:33:20 *** daMaestro has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:34:34 ixs: yes, but we've already had a lot of pushback on it. 2008-05-23T10:35:35 f13: b/c we're red hat and therefore evil 2008-05-23T10:35:36 duh 2008-05-23T10:36:09 skvidal: whats my excuse then? 2008-05-23T10:36:33 although to do anything meaningful with hosted you need a Fedora account and sign the Fedora CLA so *shrug* 2008-05-23T10:36:41 dgilmore: you work for MS now, don't you? 2008-05-23T10:36:55 *** J5 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:37:03 dgilmore: oh, no, wait - you still work for OLPC 2008-05-23T10:37:08 .... ;) 2008-05-23T10:37:25 *** J5 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:37:47 skvidal: thats mean 2008-05-23T10:37:53 :) 2008-05-23T10:38:01 dgilmore: the truth often is 2008-05-23T10:38:13 skvidal: ill have my MSCE by the end of the month 2008-05-23T10:38:24 ill throw my RHCE out then 2008-05-23T10:38:31 good, goo 2008-05-23T10:38:33 d 2008-05-23T10:38:54 ill be more employable 2008-05-23T10:39:59 f13: yeah, we're fedora and all just evil Red Hat sockpuppets. Personally, I wouldn't give to much credit though to people bitching about it. It#s similar to asking /. what we should do with fedora... 2008-05-23T10:40:13 ooo good idea 2008-05-23T10:40:17 * skvidal goes to post to /. 2008-05-23T10:40:21 f13: personally, I think fedorahosted is perfectly fine as it is. 2008-05-23T10:40:32 f13: fedorahosted is fine. actually, it's better than fine. it's good. 2008-05-23T10:40:40 ignore the haters 2008-05-23T10:41:04 yeah. they would still be bitching even if we put the stuff onto sourceforge. 2008-05-23T10:41:26 sourceforge is nasty 2008-05-23T10:42:05 sure, but then it wouldn't be hosted by evil people on evil red hat hardware... 2008-05-23T10:43:38 dgilmore: how do I change the puppet config these days? It seems as if the SOP has changed. 2008-05-23T10:44:07 mbonnet: ssh to puppet1 2008-05-23T10:44:20 the CVSROOT=/cvs cvs co configs 2008-05-23T10:44:28 cd configs 2008-05-23T10:44:37 vi build/kojira.conf 2008-05-23T10:44:41 make change 2008-05-23T10:44:44 cvs ci 2008-05-23T10:44:48 make install 2008-05-23T10:45:00 then it will hit on next puppet run 2008-05-23T10:45:18 you can restart puppet n koji if you want it sooner 2008-05-23T10:45:30 thats off the top of my head 2008-05-23T10:47:39 *** petreu has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:48:11 *** j6k has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:48:28 mbonnet: please update the SOP if its incorrect. 2008-05-23T10:48:56 mmcgrath: nah, I just had the server wrong (lockbox instead of puppet). It's been a while. 2008-05-23T10:50:23 *** stickster has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:51:44 *** giallu has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:51:49 *** stickster has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:53:18 *** notting has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T10:54:29 *** ianweller has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:56:12 *** linville has quit IRC 2008-05-23T10:56:47 *** linville has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:00:54 skvidal: did spot get back to you yet? 2008-05-23T11:02:10 *** sternecg has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:03:01 f13: nope 2008-05-23T11:03:03 haven't seen him 2008-05-23T11:03:33 skvidal: ive not heard from him today 2008-05-23T11:03:34 I haven't either. 2008-05-23T11:03:59 * skvidal wonders if spot has taken off early for memorial day weekend 2008-05-23T11:05:14 you're supposed to go somewhere? 2008-05-23T11:05:27 no I just meant 'time off' 2008-05-23T11:05:33 notting: yes work 2008-05-23T11:05:39 *** jmtaylor has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:05:44 notting: your supposed to work extra hard 2008-05-23T11:06:14 .any spot 2008-05-23T11:06:14 mmcgrath: spot was last seen in #fedora-admin 2 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: uh oh 2008-05-23T11:06:18 *** tibbs has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:06:23 .any spot #fedora-devel 2008-05-23T11:06:23 mmcgrath: (any [] [--user ] []) -- Returns the last time was seen and what was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in . If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in . is only (1 more message) 2008-05-23T11:06:30 .any #fedora-devel spot 2008-05-23T11:06:30 mmcgrath: spot was last seen in #fedora-devel 22 hours, 46 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: warren: no 2008-05-23T11:06:36 heh 2008-05-23T11:06:44 * ricky curses his school's ridiculous port-blocking. 2008-05-23T11:06:52 thats a good topic 2008-05-23T11:06:52 ricky: happy birthday! 2008-05-23T11:06:56 (or was it yesterday) ? 2008-05-23T11:07:18 It was today - thanks :-) 2008-05-23T11:07:25 _is_ today :) 2008-05-23T11:07:29 ricky: :) happy birthday 2008-05-23T11:07:34 * jmtaylor also wishes ricky a happy birthday 2008-05-23T11:07:35 * f13 is confused 2008-05-23T11:07:44 f13: ? 2008-05-23T11:07:51 why does .any spot and .any #fedora-devel spot return different things? 2008-05-23T11:07:56 Oh yeah, "is" 2008-05-23T11:07:57 oh wait, I get it. 2008-05-23T11:08:00 Thanks 2008-05-23T11:08:02 sortof but not really 2008-05-23T11:08:16 f13: its an odd behavior. "any" is for any activity that user has done... but still only in this channel. 2008-05-23T11:08:29 mmcgrath: that seems... odd. 2008-05-23T11:08:31 .any you would think is the most recent entry in any room 2008-05-23T11:08:31 dgilmore: (any [] [--user ] []) -- Returns the last time was seen and what was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in . If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in . is only (1 more message) 2008-05-23T11:08:34 .last is only for things he said, .any would also include him leaving or joining a room. 2008-05-23T11:08:36 I would think any would be 'any channel I'm listening in' 2008-05-23T11:08:51 yeah, I was a little disappointed when I found that out as well :-/ 2008-05-23T11:09:09 *** vpv has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:17:48 *** j6k has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:17:49 *** Londo_ has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:18:36 *** webbj has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:18:39 *** smooge has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:19:15 *** bashohII has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:21:01 *** cyberpear has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:24:36 *** wfp has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:28:21 *** Londo_ has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:28:27 *** J5 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:28:56 *** J5 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:29:20 *** ianweller has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:30:20 *** cyberpear has left #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:31:15 *** cyberpear has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:33:28 *** petreu has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:35:58 *** jmtaylor has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:36:41 *** webbj has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:43:45 mmcgrath: so do you think there is anything wrong with my initial thought of running spamd on hosted1, then getting it puppetized to be able to run on collab1 and maybe bastion? 2008-05-23T11:44:04 f13: I don't think so, especially since it sounds like you're getting a lot of spam. 2008-05-23T11:44:20 I think it was only 3 or four last night 2008-05-23T11:45:15 *sigh* 2008-05-23T11:45:27 Still not much luck, should be back in an hour or so to try more. 2008-05-23T11:46:30 ricky: k 2008-05-23T11:47:43 man that's a lot of perl. 2008-05-23T11:55:18 *** dledford has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:56:19 *** sereinity has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:57:24 *** fab_away has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T11:57:38 *** fab_away has quit IRC 2008-05-23T11:58:20 mmcgrath: fyi I'm going to shut off puppet on hosted1 for a few so that it won't clobber my testing settings. 2008-05-23T12:03:48 *** spstarr_work has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:03:50 uhm 2008-05-23T12:03:59 is people1 supposed to allow people to SSH *without* a key? 2008-05-23T12:04:02 *** wfp has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:04:11 *** spoleeba has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:04:24 i can ssh in w/o a key but use my FAS username/password 2008-05-23T12:05:19 spstarr_work: yes, thats allowed. 2008-05-23T12:05:27 ok, wasn't sure 2008-05-23T12:06:40 *** stickster is now known as stickster_afk 2008-05-23T12:10:51 buhahaha, new favorite spam 2008-05-23T12:10:53 subject "Best" 2008-05-23T12:10:58 body: "Your life is crap" 2008-05-23T12:11:00 end of spam :) 2008-05-23T12:11:21 whut :D 2008-05-23T12:11:21 thats such a motivator! ;-) 2008-05-23T12:11:26 nice 2008-05-23T12:11:44 hrm. so it looks like it'd be better if spamassassin was ran as a user rather than 'nobody' 2008-05-23T12:12:26 yet spamassassin doesn't install a user. strange. 2008-05-23T12:12:45 well, mail is still getting through OK, so lunch time for now 2008-05-23T12:14:15 * spstarr_work ponders ordering a small pizza and wings 2008-05-23T12:14:47 *** hanthana has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:14:55 mmmm that sounds good. now i am hungry. 2008-05-23T12:25:31 *** maploin has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:30:08 *** lillian has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:32:25 *** mether has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:33:03 http://digg.com/linux_unix/Create_Fedora_9_Live_USB_installations_from_windows 2008-05-23T12:34:39 Ticket notification - infrastructure: Ticket #563 (task closed): SCM migration request for system-config-printer 2008-05-23T12:36:48 ricky: you around by chance? 2008-05-23T12:37:47 *** hanthana has quit IRC 2008-05-23T12:38:56 *** maploin has quit IRC 2008-05-23T12:40:59 *** stickster_afk is now known as stickster 2008-05-23T12:42:56 *** webbj has quit IRC 2008-05-23T12:48:38 jcollie: you use bcfg2 right? 2008-05-23T12:52:02 *** ytchi has quit IRC 2008-05-23T12:55:37 *** zodbot has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T12:56:29 Announcement from my owner (stickster): The F9 media blitz continues: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Create_Fedora_9_Live_USB_installations_from_windows -- thanks for helping with our public awareness campaign! 2008-05-23T12:57:01 *** ytchi has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T13:00:35 ricky: ianweller: its sort of up - http://fedoraproject.org/wikinew/ 2008-05-23T13:00:39 I'll be back after lunch. 2008-05-23T13:03:53 *** giarc_w has quit IRC 2008-05-23T13:06:23 Ugh. bad Toshio. :-( 2008-05-23T13:06:35 I licensed python-fedora under the GPLv2. 2008-05-23T13:06:55 But Mirrormanager is MIT/X11. 2008-05-23T13:07:22 Not to mention whatever third-party tools are out there. 2008-05-23T13:09:15 mmcgrath: acknowledged 2008-05-23T13:09:24 *** stickster has quit IRC 2008-05-23T13:10:18 *** vpv has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T13:10:51 *** stickster has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T13:16:04 *** smooge is now known as smooge_afk 2008-05-23T13:26:30 *** nphilipp has quit IRC 2008-05-23T13:27:16 *** sandeen has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T13:27:27 so, when my fedora cert expires and I get: 2008-05-23T13:27:27 You need to download a new client-side certificate 2008-05-23T13:27:28 from https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/ 2008-05-23T13:27:41 it would be helpful if it told me where that cert is supposed to go... should I file an RFE for this? :) 2008-05-23T13:28:02 *** linville has quit IRC 2008-05-23T13:29:08 *** J5 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T13:29:43 *** J5 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T13:30:29 gah, who restarted puppet on hosted1? 2008-05-23T13:35:09 f13: Did you disable the cron job that does that? 2008-05-23T13:35:47 sandeen: I just added some information on that to the help bubble. 2008-05-23T13:36:10 sandeen: Not extremely discoverable, though. 2008-05-23T13:36:45 Where else do you think the location should be mentioned? 2008-05-23T13:37:28 abadger1999: ah, didn't realize there was one. 2008-05-23T13:37:32 *** trochala has quit IRC 2008-05-23T13:38:15 abadger1999: where is that cron job installed? 2008-05-23T13:39:01 abadger1999: found it 2008-05-23T13:39:27 cool 2008-05-23T13:41:33 abadger1999, in the error message from common/Makefile.common I think... 2008-05-23T13:41:40 abadger1999, but dunno where I'd file a bug on that :) 2008-05-23T13:42:09 sandeen: Hang on, I'll add it there. 2008-05-23T13:42:23 cool, thanks 2008-05-23T13:42:37 dgilmore: yes, i use bcfg2 2008-05-23T13:42:39 * sandeen did figure it out ... ;) 2008-05-23T13:45:31 abadger1999, common/cvs-import.sh too I guess 2008-05-23T13:47:27 mmcgrath: first bug i see with the new wiki: can't login with openid because i can't see the page Special:OpenIDLogin without being logged in. 2008-05-23T13:47:35 mmcgrath: are we adding users to systems via puppet anywhere? 2008-05-23T13:47:57 sandeen: Okay. Added. 2008-05-23T13:48:03 n/m, I see in the build.pp adding the 'mock' user. 2008-05-23T13:48:06 Thanks! 2008-05-23T13:49:21 abadger1999, thank YOU sir :) 2008-05-23T13:49:56 jcollie: how do you find it? 2008-05-23T13:50:07 mmcgrath: do we have a uid registry somewhere for local users on our systems? I'd like the spam user to have a uid < 500 2008-05-23T13:50:08 jcollie: do you use it with a vcs? 2008-05-23T13:50:34 jcollie: im thining of using it here 2008-05-23T13:51:57 *** sandeen has left #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:02:04 f13: puppet restarts via a cron job if its off for too long. 2008-05-23T14:02:23 f13: and yes we are adding users via systems, no we don't have a registry other then grep uid -r ./manifests 2008-05-23T14:03:38 k 2008-05-23T14:07:12 dgilmore: it's pretty nice, except that my server is on an overloaded vmware box right now 2008-05-23T14:07:27 dgilmore: i like that i can use genshi templating 2008-05-23T14:08:18 *** warthog9 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T14:09:33 jcollie: do you have a good source of documentation? it seems sparse on their wiki 2008-05-23T14:10:04 the source mostly i guess... i've done a little hacking 2008-05-23T14:12:08 *** J5 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T14:12:36 *** J5 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:13:03 :) thought so 2008-05-23T14:13:50 Ticket notification - infrastructure: Ticket #569 (bug created): We would like to clean up all SELinux data so it only reports F8 and beyond data 2008-05-23T14:14:36 huh, well I have spamassassin running, and it identified spam correctly, but email2trac didn't drop it like it should. 2008-05-23T14:19:18 *** jwb_gone is now known as jwb_out 2008-05-23T14:19:39 *** jortel has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:26:18 *** tibbs has quit IRC 2008-05-23T14:28:06 *** lwh has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:32:08 *** warthog9 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:34:19 *** webbj has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:35:59 *** lwh is now known as ld99 2008-05-23T14:37:11 *** ld99 is now known as lwh 2008-05-23T14:43:15 so how much money would y'all pay me to wear this to FUDCon? - http://www.amazon.com/Bal-Togs-Complete-Body-Unitard/dp/B0002UQIMM 2008-05-23T14:45:16 I think I would need to get paid to see you wearing it 2008-05-23T14:45:32 f13: I'll get two eye patches :) 2008-05-23T14:45:39 however I think I will start calling you "unitard" 2008-05-23T14:45:44 heh 2008-05-23T14:45:59 yeah, there are other fedora people i'd rather see i it 2008-05-23T14:46:09 this is more you: http://tinyurl.com/d4ptr 2008-05-23T14:46:27 heh 2008-05-23T14:49:43 *** jds2001_ has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:50:57 skvidal: ping 2008-05-23T14:51:07 pong 2008-05-23T14:51:14 * skvidal expects pain from an f13 ping 2008-05-23T14:51:17 skvidal: did you setup the planet_config user for fedorapeople? 2008-05-23T14:51:23 yes 2008-05-23T14:51:26 and if so, what's with gid 100075 ? 2008-05-23T14:51:29 web 2008-05-23T14:51:38 *** jds2001_ has quit IRC 2008-05-23T14:51:39 that gid doesn't show up in /etc/group 2008-05-23T14:51:53 f13: try 'getent group' 2008-05-23T14:52:05 f13: it's one of the db-added groups from fas 2008-05-23T14:52:13 ah 2008-05-23T14:52:13 getent group web 2008-05-23T14:52:21 f13: something wrong? 2008-05-23T14:52:43 I didn't want to just create a bogon group for no reason 2008-05-23T14:53:23 skvidal: nope, just following examples creating my 'spammy' user 2008-05-23T14:53:40 *** MostafaDaneshvar has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T14:53:40 ah 2008-05-23T14:53:41 cool 2008-05-23T14:57:43 *** wfp has quit IRC 2008-05-23T14:58:43 *** stickster is now known as stickster_afk 2008-05-23T14:59:17 hrm. 2008-05-23T14:59:45 mmcgrath: ping; so if spamassassin is installed, we need to further modify /etc/postfix/master.cf, which is already managed by the postfix class. How does one do this? 2008-05-23T15:00:11 f13: its in puppet as an erb file, you should be able to alter it in that template 2008-05-23T15:01:31 ok 2008-05-23T15:02:06 master.cf isn't an erb, only main.cf 2008-05-23T15:02:12 ahh 2008-05-23T15:02:42 well, if the change is specific to what you're doing you should probably change main.cf to an erb and change the manifest to a template. 2008-05-23T15:02:57 *** MostafaDaneshvar has left #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T15:03:25 ianweller: FYI, my request for a *.fedoraproject.org got officially denied but there's still hope. They're working on it. 2008-05-23T15:03:37 Turns out the team that handles that has no way to actually order those (go figure) 2008-05-23T15:09:54 f13: did spot ever show up? 2008-05-23T15:10:21 *** nehal has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T15:10:48 skvidal: I haven't seen him yet 2008-05-23T15:11:04 ok 2008-05-23T15:11:19 mmcgrath: so it feels a bit wrong just keying off of hostname to determine if postfix should use spamassassin or not, but I guess that's the only way here. 2008-05-23T15:11:54 f13: you can use a "spamEnabled" flag if you want. Then just add "$spamEnabled = 1" to the node or server group. 2008-05-23T15:12:04 we do stuff like that in other places (like which db's are enabled where) 2008-05-23T15:12:19 mmcgrath: ooooh! 2008-05-23T15:12:25 I didn't see an example like that 2008-05-23T15:12:51 take a look at nodes/db2.pp for example 2008-05-23T15:14:01 mmcgrath: however I'm not seeing that used in a .erb 2008-05-23T15:14:23 * mmcgrath thinks. 2008-05-23T15:14:31 I know there's another example, I have to remember what it is. 2008-05-23T15:14:54 I'll keep looking through the erbs 2008-05-23T15:16:21 f13: the more advanced version of $var's being in erb's is in our iptables erb 2008-05-23T15:16:36 I don't think there's if's there though, just for's. 2008-05-23T15:19:06 *** stickster_afk is now known as stickster 2008-05-23T15:20:00 *** jortel has quit IRC 2008-05-23T15:21:59 you know it's a slow day when: http://jcollie.fedorapeople.org/mmcgrath-unitard.png 2008-05-23T15:22:14 buhahahah 2008-05-23T15:22:35 *** jortel has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T15:22:48 why were you looking for unitards anyway :) 2008-05-23T15:23:05 I wan't, a friend of mine recently set that picture as her AIM icon. 2008-05-23T15:23:34 it's the perfect color though 2008-05-23T15:23:46 yeah 2008-05-23T15:26:55 mmcgrath: Around for a bit now. 2008-05-23T15:27:06 ricky: howdy. 2008-05-23T15:27:12 mmcgrath: if you wear something like that for fudcon, we're sending you home without any cookies ;) 2008-05-23T15:27:21 awww, I love cookies! 2008-05-23T15:28:52 mmcgrath: you gonna bring some bacon cookies for everyone? :) 2008-05-23T15:28:56 skvidal: ping; got the archive box back online 2008-05-23T15:29:02 nirik: ohh, not a bad idea. 2008-05-23T15:29:33 jcollie: If you have some time, we could probably use some help with samadhi :-) 2008-05-23T15:29:55 Ooh, bacon cookies. 2008-05-23T15:30:13 heh, i'm kinda slacking off now so i guess i could help out rather than embarrass mmcgrath anymore 2008-05-23T15:30:20 Yay! 2008-05-23T15:30:34 So we've run into some problems when changing it to use postgresql.' 2008-05-23T15:31:37 hmm never tried with postgresql... is something munging the values that get stored? 2008-05-23T15:31:55 So basically, entries aren't appearing in samadhi_associations 2008-05-23T15:32:02 period. 2008-05-23T15:32:10 mmm that's bad 2008-05-23T15:32:23 f13: yay 2008-05-23T15:32:26 where's the stuff? 2008-05-23T15:32:28 There's a test instance on publictest10:/home/fedora/ricky/samadhi using a local postgres db. 2008-05-23T15:32:42 Feel free to edit/play around with it (I'll chgrp/chmod it) 2008-05-23T15:32:53 skvidal: 'dhcp148.install.bos.redhat.com' 2008-05-23T15:34:10 jcollie: that's the most terrifyting thing I've ever seen 2008-05-23T15:35:07 heh heh, i needed something to keep me awake 2008-05-23T15:35:14 ooohhhh bacon! 2008-05-23T15:35:16 I'll sync it all down 2008-05-23T15:35:22 i have bacon on highlight :) 2008-05-23T15:35:42 jds2001: Hehe. 2008-05-23T15:35:45 jds2001: it's a topic worth staying on top of 2008-05-23T15:35:55 hmm 2008-05-23T15:36:02 430GB is bigger than archive has 2008-05-23T15:36:21 jcollie: OK, permissions changed 2008-05-23T15:37:07 jcollie: It works with http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/, which does a separate associate request. 2008-05-23T15:37:30 jcollie: Not with livejournal.com or publictest2.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ or wikitravel.org, though. 2008-05-23T15:37:48 ah ha 2008-05-23T15:37:50 no test releases 2008-05-23T15:37:52 I'm not sure where they associate, because the first request that I usually see from them is is a checkid_setup 2008-05-23T15:38:35 And that instance is running at http://publictest10.fedoraproject.org:8099/ 2008-05-23T15:38:59 Oh, and it's using postgres for sessions too, which apparently isn't too nice in terms of error handling. 2008-05-23T15:39:58 We might have to add try/except around any session.get() 2008-05-23T15:42:16 * lmacken grumbles about unencrypted login prompts all over publictest10 2008-05-23T15:44:48 f13: tell whomever not to shutdown dhcp148 please 2008-05-23T15:44:51 it's syncing now 2008-05-23T15:45:10 ricky: i think that part of it has do do with the HexString class you commented out 2008-05-23T15:45:46 sqlalchemy tries to decode strings as utf-8 and the openid secret isn't utf-8 2008-05-23T15:45:49 skvidal: yeah, we won't shut it down unless the building goes haywire, which it already has multiple times 2008-05-23T15:47:25 jcollie: I commented it out to see if it could have been involved (it didn't work with that enabled either :-() 2008-05-23T15:47:46 mmcgrath: how does this looK: http://fpaste.org/paste/2350 2008-05-23T15:48:09 you get a nasty traceback in the sql code, but i don't know if that shows up unless you do some debugging of the sql 2008-05-23T15:49:51 looks good to me, only thing I'd change is to put the $spamEnabled = 1 2008-05-23T15:50:04 inside the spamassassin_server class 2008-05-23T15:50:08 *** bretm has quit IRC 2008-05-23T15:50:10 Grr. Is there any way to git-reset a *single* file? 2008-05-23T15:50:29 ricky: wget :) 2008-05-23T15:50:31 Ah, git checkout 2008-05-23T15:50:39 mmcgrath: ah I see. 2008-05-23T15:50:42 mmcgrath: I'll do that. 2008-05-23T15:50:53 jcollie: Oops, I just deleted #model.py#, thinking that git might have created it. 2008-05-23T15:50:54 git reset HEAD -- filename 2008-05-23T15:51:03 ricky: no that was emacs 2008-05-23T15:51:08 jcollie: And ran git checkout model.py, so it's back to the original. 2008-05-23T15:51:10 Yeah, I just realized. 2008-05-23T15:51:24 oh, no problem that's what i was trying to do anyway 2008-05-23T15:52:08 jcollie: Oh, and username/password is test/test. 2008-05-23T15:52:18 f13: thanks 2008-05-23T15:52:19 ok, i was able to log in and edit a page on ikiwiki.info 2008-05-23T15:52:25 *** webbj has quit IRC 2008-05-23T15:52:38 Also, I'm going to redirect all output of start-samadhi.py to samadhi.log in the same directory. 2008-05-23T15:52:52 Er, jcollie, can you do that? :-) 2008-05-23T15:53:05 sure 2008-05-23T15:53:15 jcollie: But try with something like livejornal. 2008-05-23T15:53:50 Here's the traceback (which you can hopefully easily reproduce): http://dpaste.com/52332/ 2008-05-23T15:53:53 yeah i'm trying some other sites 2008-05-23T15:53:58 skvidal: np. 2008-05-23T15:54:19 jcollie: The *big* one is http://publictest2.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ ;-) 2008-05-23T15:55:31 http://wiki.openid.net/Main_Page works 2008-05-23T15:55:52 gah 2008-05-23T15:57:47 jcollie: Weeird. 2008-05-23T15:57:52 jcollie: Do you see an explicit associate request? 2008-05-23T15:58:03 still looking though the logs 2008-05-23T15:58:13 And are you pretty familiar with how the OpenID auth protocol works? 2008-05-23T15:58:21 * ricky used to be, but has lost track a bit. 2008-05-23T15:58:24 only kinda... 2008-05-23T15:58:39 *** kambiz has quit IRC 2008-05-23T15:58:39 i cribbed pretty heavily from some example code 2008-05-23T16:01:57 Ah, I think I saw that somewhere. 2008-05-23T16:02:36 does 'make install' often get stuck after installing teh passwords file? 2008-05-23T16:04:22 *** kwizart has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T16:04:35 * ricky used bacula for an actual restore for the first time :-) (ironically, it was for a bacula config file that I accidentally erased) 2008-05-23T16:04:50 God, it's so cool. 2008-05-23T16:05:12 f13: do you ever see schick around? 2008-05-23T16:05:13 ricky: you used the restore shell? 2008-05-23T16:05:18 mmcgrath: on internal IRC yes. 2008-05-23T16:05:26 mmcgrath: I think he's in training this week 2008-05-23T16:05:26 f13: Yup 2008-05-23T16:05:37 ricky: yeah, the shell is pretty fantastic. 2008-05-23T16:05:44 ahhh, I was wondering the status of the blade center (and if it'd been shipped yet) but I haven't heard back yet. 2008-05-23T16:05:47 ricky: I had to do some restores at my last company, the shell made it sooooo easy 2008-05-23T16:05:59 I also tried the restore shell on a 100GB disk, though - that took a while. 2008-05-23T16:06:05 haha 2008-05-23T16:06:19 I wonder why it doesn't just get directories straight from MySQL instead of building (?) it in memory. 2008-05-23T16:06:46 * ricky goes home (will be back in an hour or so) 2008-05-23T16:07:13 Woo, I will have vacation (as in, be at home/in here) for Monday-Thursday next week 2008-05-23T16:07:25 ricky: awesome! 2008-05-23T16:07:40 jcollie: Let me know if you find anything, I've been spending long nights with it and failing so far :-( 2008-05-23T16:07:43 * ricky really goes 2008-05-23T16:07:50 ricky: okie dokie 2008-05-23T16:08:28 ! hello - i have a problem with the current repo for F-9 i386 "released": 2008-05-23T16:08:58 nss-mdns aspell-fr and gnumeric (probably others are missing) 2008-05-23T16:09:18 kwizart: are you pointing to the Everything/ repo or the Fedora/ repo? 2008-05-23T16:09:19 i'm trying to compose a livecd 2008-05-23T16:09:24 (hint, you should be pointing to Everything) 2008-05-23T16:09:31 so i've made a rsync 2008-05-23T16:09:53 hum ! that's was it then 2008-05-23T16:12:41 *** sharkcz has quit IRC 2008-05-23T16:16:15 *** jwb_out is now known as jwb 2008-05-23T16:21:04 abadger1999: ricky: do either of you know of a way to pass FAS a username and get the Real Name back? 2008-05-23T16:21:26 I think there's API for that. 2008-05-23T16:23:37 abadger1999: there is, found it. 2008-05-23T16:23:48 Cool. 2008-05-23T16:23:52 * abadger1999 multitasking 2008-05-23T16:26:32 *** fab has quit IRC 2008-05-23T16:27:08 is there a way in puppet "folders" to create parent directories too? 2008-05-23T16:27:15 or do I have to list them individually? 2008-05-23T16:30:54 f13: individually unfortunately :-/ 2008-05-23T16:31:02 * mmcgrath needs to make an RFE about that. 2008-05-23T16:31:20 f13: alternatively, if you're real fancy you can do this.. /me looks it up 2008-05-23T16:32:06 exec { 'mkdir -p /path/to/your/thing': 2008-05-23T16:32:15 cwd => '/' 2008-05-23T16:32:17 ah 2008-05-23T16:32:23 creates => '/path/to/your/thing' } 2008-05-23T16:32:52 f13: take a look at dns.pp for interesting ways we're currently using that :) 2008-05-23T16:33:13 I just listed both the homedir and the .spamassassin dir 2008-05-23T16:33:31 oh interesting, something didn't restart correctly 2008-05-23T16:33:53 ugh, my master.cf.erb stuff isn't working 2008-05-23T16:35:03 * f13 wonders if spamassassin has to be included first? 2008-05-23T16:41:28 mmcgrath: ok, I need to get some help here. I've failed. 2008-05-23T16:42:10 hrm 2008-05-23T16:42:13 it's rejecting my key cvs 2008-05-23T16:42:32 * spstarr_work scratches head 2008-05-23T16:42:49 spstarr_work: it's not a debian key is it? 2008-05-23T16:43:04 shouldn't be this KDE is also used for my KDE commit 2008-05-23T16:43:11 *** otaylor has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T16:43:34 it matches in fas 2008-05-23T16:44:21 yayyy!!! 2008-05-23T16:44:26 Error: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). 2008-05-23T16:44:49 i have my .ssh/config 2008-05-23T16:44:50 Host cvs.fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T16:44:50 IdentityFile ~/.ssh/home 2008-05-23T16:45:21 * spstarr_work tries it on people1 2008-05-23T16:45:31 mmcgrath: (on another note) jkeating: still trying to track down packing material here.. 2008-05-23T16:46:49 oh 2008-05-23T16:47:00 f13: I hope it gets out there soon, I'll be there the first week of June. 2008-05-23T16:47:24 f13: where does Tom Lane work? 2008-05-23T16:47:31 dgilmore: I know not. 2008-05-23T16:47:36 *** shenson is now known as shenson_not_here 2008-05-23T16:49:07 .fas Lane 2008-05-23T16:49:08 f13: balor 'Aidan Delaney' - hpachas 'Hernán Pachas Magallanes' - iain 'John Dulaney' - jotaplanet 'Francisco Marin Arteaga' - tgl 'Tom Lane' 2008-05-23T16:49:50 lemme try somethin 2008-05-23T16:50:08 mmcgrath: anywho, when you get a moment I could use some hand holding with puppet to figure out why my $spamEnabled isn't ringing true on hosted1 2008-05-23T16:50:47 f13: sure thing, I'm just finishing up a plugin. Gimme a few minutes. 2008-05-23T16:50:57 k 2008-05-23T16:51:04 if i try to ssh to cvs.fedoraproject.org it gives the right key, but wont allow logging in, i dont think can log in anyway but it still should've accepted the key? 2008-05-23T16:53:11 *** smooge_afk is now known as smooge 2008-05-23T16:55:12 spstarr_work: how are you trying to connect? 2008-05-23T16:55:32 spstarr_work: do you need to pass special options to use the correct key? 2008-05-23T16:55:44 it gets picked up by .ssh/config 2008-05-23T16:56:39 hrm 2008-05-23T16:56:55 f13: whats the name of your erb file? 2008-05-23T16:57:01 ok it works from home.. 2008-05-23T16:57:04 lemme figure out 2008-05-23T16:58:19 dgilmore: does Fedora's boxes do reverse host lookups? 2008-05-23T16:58:22 mmcgrath: configs/system/smtp/master.cf.erb 2008-05-23T16:58:48 spstarr_work: not that would cause you to not log in 2008-05-23T16:58:55 hmm 2008-05-23T17:00:14 *** lwh has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:00:38 f13: ahh, I see the problem. in the actual ERB file you just refer to var_name not $var_name 2008-05-23T17:00:46 aha 2008-05-23T17:00:46 whoops 2008-05-23T17:01:07 wait, waht? 2008-05-23T17:01:15 dgilmore: i know why.. its not the same key its my old older debian key 2008-05-23T17:01:16 *** quigon has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:01:16 <% if $spamEnabled -%> 2008-05-23T17:01:16 smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=spamassassin 2008-05-23T17:01:19 I guess i forgot to delete this one :) 2008-05-23T17:01:20 that's what I have... 2008-05-23T17:01:34 yeah, it should be <% if spamEnabled -%> 2008-05-23T17:01:51 err you _should_ just refer to var_name not $var_name 2008-05-23T17:01:56 works 2008-05-23T17:01:57 :) 2008-05-23T17:02:01 now I get it 2008-05-23T17:02:20 it should not let me log into cvs but prompt for password 2008-05-23T17:02:26 fine we're golden i think then 2008-05-23T17:04:06 mmcgrath: 2008-05-23T17:04:07 Failed to parse template /var/lib/puppet/config/system/smtp/master.cf.erb: Could not find value for 'spamEnabled' at /var/tmp/puppetManifests.13994/manifests/services/smtp.pp:37 on node puppet1 2008-05-23T17:04:40 f13: thats on a make install? or on hosted1? 2008-05-23T17:04:46 thats a make install. 2008-05-23T17:04:46 make install 2008-05-23T17:06:10 *** notting has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:07:45 f13: ah, ok. This is where things get stupid. Let me find the example. 2008-05-23T17:07:56 heee 2008-05-23T17:08:44 oh I think I get it 2008-05-23T17:08:56 f13: see in smtp.pp that silly section just above where master.cf.erb is included it says $relayHost? 2008-05-23T17:09:31 *** mizmo is now known as mizmo-out 2008-05-23T17:09:34 f13: I'm going to test something real quick 2008-05-23T17:09:52 yeah 2008-05-23T17:10:02 ok. 2008-05-23T17:10:45 f13: long story short, the var has to be defined in order to get referenced _and_ puppet doesn't know how to do "if not" 2008-05-23T17:10:54 so you have to do an if something, else. 2008-05-23T17:10:58 * mmcgrath tests something 2008-05-23T17:12:47 *** leenuxg33k has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:13:09 *** huff has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:14:55 f13: there we go, take a look at what I did there and give it a test. 2008-05-23T17:17:01 ah 2008-05-23T17:17:56 did you make install? 2008-05-23T17:18:07 mmcgrath: ricky: i think i have some progress on openid 2008-05-23T17:18:16 f13: I did 2008-05-23T17:18:20 jcollie: excellent 2008-05-23T17:18:50 jcollie: Yay!! What was it? 2008-05-23T17:19:10 i shouldn't be using .one() on those queries 2008-05-23T17:19:21 lemme forward you the patches 2008-05-23T17:19:35 hrm, I wonder why puppet on hosted1 keeps saying: May 23 21:38:13 hosted1 puppetd[13937]: (//Node[hosted1]/spamassassin_server/Service[spamassassin]/ensure) ensure changed 'stopped' to 'running' 2008-05-23T17:19:42 Weird, because I was looking at those tables in psql, and nothing ever got added. 2008-05-23T17:20:38 f13: its possible that init script isn't created properly. 2008-05-23T17:20:54 f13: mind running a puppetd -t on another non-hosted1 box and make sure it looks ok too? 2008-05-23T17:21:17 mmcgrath: just a tic, I think you were close but not quite. 2008-05-23T17:21:29 I think we're fine with just <% if spamEnabled %> 2008-05-23T17:21:55 or maybe the section with that is getting added everywhere, and our top section still isn't matching right 2008-05-23T17:22:17 master.cf.erb has two sections that are in if blocks. The top section didn't get written out on hosted1, the bottom section did 2008-05-23T17:23:16 ah 2008-05-23T17:24:08 i put my patches up at http://jcollie.fedoraproject.org/fas.git too 2008-05-23T17:24:26 jcollie: Ohhh, a one() for a select by server_url, I see. 2008-05-23T17:24:42 * ricky crosses his fingers, thanks! 2008-05-23T17:24:55 yeah, i guess that there are cases where there are no matches, and you should just return None 2008-05-23T17:25:06 s/project/people/ :-) 2008-05-23T17:25:14 er yeah :) 2008-05-23T17:25:44 i was able to use openid to log into publictest2 2008-05-23T17:26:28 Nice! 2008-05-23T17:26:46 *** J5 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:26:46 * ricky takes the next leap - WSGI 2008-05-23T17:27:08 mmcgrath: trying something... 2008-05-23T17:27:11 As long as that doesn't change things, we're good 2008-05-23T17:27:24 i changed the samadhi copy on pt10 to use pgsql for storing the associations too 2008-05-23T17:28:06 jcollie: Oh, it wasn't before? 2008-05-23T17:28:23 no, it looked like it was using sqlite 2008-05-23T17:28:34 * ricky was switching a lot between sqlite/RAM for this last night to try to isolate the problem/ 2008-05-23T17:28:55 The strange thing is that it did seem to work with sqlite and sessions in RAM (at least once) 2008-05-23T17:29:40 *** jortel has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:30:30 yeah, it may be because the consumer on the other side is saving some state - the very first time things would work, but other times you'd kind of jump in the middle and you'd get those errors 2008-05-23T17:30:42 at least that's my theory for the moment 2008-05-23T17:31:37 Yeah. 2008-05-23T17:32:32 *** zodbot has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T17:34:36 mmcgrath: I'm getting unlreated errors when running puppet -t 2008-05-23T17:34:46 f13: on which box? 2008-05-23T17:34:47 err: Could not create mailman: Could not find a default provider for group 2008-05-23T17:34:53 mmcgrath: hosted1, collab1, bastion 2008-05-23T17:34:54 * spstarr_work growls .. 2008-05-23T17:37:08 ok.. gotta go pick up the young 'uns and grab supper... bbl to hack more on the openid stuff 2008-05-23T17:37:12 jcollie: Cool, thanks again! 2008-05-23T17:37:18 f13: hmm, I just didn't get an error. 2008-05-23T17:37:31 f13: you running it as you or as root? 2008-05-23T17:37:55 sudo... 2008-05-23T17:38:11 *** h\h has quit IRC 2008-05-23T17:39:09 mmcgrath: weird. Doing it as !sudo seems to work 2008-05-23T17:41:49 yeah, puppet needs roots environment. 2008-05-23T17:42:19 gotcha 2008-05-23T17:43:04 ok, tested with -t, it looks like I've got things setup correctly 2008-05-23T17:45:04 huh, interesting, it didn't cause postfix to reload. 2008-05-23T17:45:45 jcollie: Ahhhh, the interface *does* say that. 2008-05-23T17:46:09 hmm 2008-05-23T17:46:13 thats not good. 2008-05-23T17:46:15 jcollie: is there supposed to be something in puppet that causes postfix to restart with either master.cf or main.cf get updated? 2008-05-23T17:46:59 mmcgrath: nagios doesnt build in rawhide.. but it builds fine on my box w/o mock.. looking at it 2008-05-23T17:47:09 spstarr_work: excellent, thanks for looking at that... never a dull moment :) 2008-05-23T17:47:20 it should be easy to fix 2008-05-23T17:47:27 im running a local mock build now 2008-05-23T17:48:38 hmm 2008-05-23T17:48:41 mmcgrath: we have success (aside from the postfix reload issue) 2008-05-23T17:49:32 solid :) 2008-05-23T17:49:46 * f13 files ticket for that one 2008-05-23T17:54:14 FYI EVERYONE: 2008-05-23T17:54:20 .fasinfo mmcgrath 2008-05-23T17:54:36 mmcgrath: User: mmcgrath, Name: Michael Patrick McGrath, Creation: 2005-12-13, IRC Nick: mmcgrath, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en 2008-05-23T17:54:38 mmcgrath: Approved Groups: cla_done accounts web fedorabugs cvsfedora cvsextras sysadmin-main sysadmin-web sysadmin svncert cvslegacy gitmirroradmin hgsmolt cvsadmin sysadmin-cvs epel_signers torrent cla_fedora torrentadmin sysadmin-test sysadmin-dba sysadmin-noc sysadmin-devel bzrpython-fedora func sysadmin-backup sysadmin-hosted sysadmin-tools l10n-admin gitfas test3 2008-05-23T17:54:39 mmcgrath: Unapproved Groups: None 2008-05-23T17:55:38 mmcgrath: YES!! 2008-05-23T17:55:47 mmcgrath: As in, that's very useful 2008-05-23T17:56:05 And as in OpenID is coming :-) 2008-05-23T17:56:24 ricky: excellent. I just got the httpd auth plugin to auto-create with proper email. 2008-05-23T17:56:46 Cool. 2008-05-23T17:58:14 ok, I'm out. 2008-05-23T17:58:27 oh, we should probably turn off rawhide for the weekend if we're going to fsck the filesystem. 2008-05-23T17:58:31 you're starting that this evening right? 2008-05-23T17:58:42 Ticket notification - infrastructure: Ticket #570 (bug created): Add puppet snippit to reload postfix when .cf files change 2008-05-23T17:58:44 f13: yep, around 11 EST tonight 2008-05-23T17:59:17 k. 2008-05-23T17:59:52 ricky: are you still working on just the auth stuff or also some of the param passing? 2008-05-23T18:01:18 *** otaylor has quit IRC 2008-05-23T18:01:26 mmcgrath: Auth first, (making the model compliant), then passing. 2008-05-23T18:01:45 jcollie already did a large amount of the passing stuff, so it shouldn't be too difficult to add. 2008-05-23T18:01:53 2008-05-23T18:05:36 *** juank_prada has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T18:09:57 *** petreu has quit IRC 2008-05-23T18:13:55 abadger1999: ping 2008-05-23T18:14:05 * ianweller is here. 2008-05-23T18:14:06 ricky: pong 2008-05-23T18:14:37 abadger1999: Just a quick sqlalchemy question - is there a way to do something like delete from [table] where [condition]? 2008-05-23T18:14:53 (Or will I need to make it execute that straight SQL?) 2008-05-23T18:15:06 ricky: mmcgrath: current status of wiki? 2008-05-23T18:15:14 I think that needs to be straight SQL. 2008-05-23T18:15:19 ianweller: Thanks to jcollie, OpenID is almost there :-) 2008-05-23T18:15:23 It definitely won't be efficient at the mapper level. 2008-05-23T18:15:25 He found a bug in the model 2008-05-23T18:15:25 woot! 2008-05-23T18:15:34 abadger1999: OK, thanks! 2008-05-23T18:20:25 is the f-devel-announce -> f-devel subscription not working? 2008-05-23T18:20:35 * jds2001 didnt get the outage notification 2008-05-23T18:22:34 jds2001: ? as in you should get auto subscribed to f-devel-announce? 2008-05-23T18:22:58 i thought that everything that went to f-d-a went to f-d as well. 2008-05-23T18:23:01 am i mistaken? 2008-05-23T18:23:15 *** smooge has quit IRC 2008-05-23T18:23:39 I don't think thats the default behavior. I think just the reply-to on f-d-a goes to f-d 2008-05-23T18:24:13 * jds2001 better subscribe to f-d-a then :) 2008-05-23T18:24:50 yeah :) its pretty low traffic. 2008-05-23T18:26:13 wait a minute 2008-05-23T18:26:30 i got the "no rawhide this weekend" - but not the outage announcement. 2008-05-23T18:26:48 some stuff seems to go to f-devel and other stuff not for some reason 2008-05-23T18:27:34 never mind. I'm stupid. I got everything :) 2008-05-23T18:27:44 * jds2001 goes back to hide in his corner. 2008-05-23T18:32:47 ianweller: you around? 2008-05-23T18:32:52 mmcgrath: yup 2008-05-23T18:33:19 ianweller: so, I've got my email in there, I'm making the change but alas. no email is getting sent. 2008-05-23T18:33:34 mmcgrath: which one 2008-05-23T18:33:40 which wiki* 2008-05-23T18:34:00 OH! 2008-05-23T18:34:04 ianweller: nm, it worked that time. 2008-05-23T18:34:10 k. 2008-05-23T18:34:19 mmcgrath: do i have access to config files for /wikinew/? 2008-05-23T18:34:30 ianweller: try to log in. 2008-05-23T18:34:38 ianweller: also, when you log in verify an email address gets filled in for you. 2008-05-23T18:35:43 openid? 2008-05-23T18:35:48 ianweller: normal. 2008-05-23T18:35:51 k. 2008-05-23T18:35:55 openid causes a blank page btw 2008-05-23T18:36:03 ianweller: openID isn't working yet so for now we're just going to push forward with what works, leave OpenID as a beta. 2008-05-23T18:36:09 makes things easier on us. 2008-05-23T18:36:11 aight 2008-05-23T18:36:17 we gonna shoot for openid for tuesday? 2008-05-23T18:36:25 WOO! 2008-05-23T18:36:30 DO IT! 2008-05-23T18:36:42 * gregdek wonders when bugzilla will follow suit... 2008-05-23T18:36:50 ianweller: it'll be enabled but both of them will be. At this point I feel more comfortable enabling both and treating openid like a beta until we're totally comfortable with it. 2008-05-23T18:36:51 hrm... has anyone investigated the security concerns with openid? 2008-05-23T18:36:55 i have an email filled in. 2008-05-23T18:36:56 ^_^ 2008-05-23T18:36:56 Wakko666: yes. 2008-05-23T18:37:00 ianweller: excellent. 2008-05-23T18:37:17 and there's some crazy style issues. where do i login to fix that 2008-05-23T18:37:25 do i need to be in another group 2008-05-23T18:38:22 ianweller: yeah, there is another group and I'll sponsor you for it for this. you need sysadmin-web. 2008-05-23T18:39:25 * ianweller has applied 2008-05-23T18:40:34 ianweller: there's rules on app1 that aren't on the test boxes. For now just work on CSS. 1) don't make any files, don't delete any files. Only edit css files. 2008-05-23T18:40:40 its the only way we can maintain sanity. 2008-05-23T18:40:48 right now the css isn't puppet managed but it will be before tuesday 2008-05-23T18:40:52 ok. 2008-05-23T18:40:53 which brings a lot more process to updating 2008-05-23T18:41:03 but for now you can alter right there 2008-05-23T18:41:18 is it on app1? 2008-05-23T18:42:04 mmcgrath: what's the full hostname 2008-05-23T18:44:28 ianweller: first you have to ssh to "bastion.fedoraproject.org" then from there just ssh to "app1" 2008-05-23T18:44:32 ok 2008-05-23T18:47:06 mmcgrath: What wiki should I be testing OpenID auth again? 2008-05-23T18:47:57 /wikinew/? 2008-05-23T18:48:08 mmcgrath: what wiki did you grab the themes from? 2008-05-23T18:48:18 * ricky goes back to pt2 :-) 2008-05-23T18:48:33 *** nman64 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T18:48:52 Success! 2008-05-23T18:48:58 ianweller: pt2, I can re-sync them from wherever though 2008-05-23T18:49:08 ianweller: I just synced fedora though. 2008-05-23T18:49:09 Now to merge changes into samadhi. 2008-05-23T18:49:19 i think you might've grabbed the wrong one. i'm not sure though 2008-05-23T18:49:28 actually no you got the right one 2008-05-23T18:49:39 ianweller: whats wrong with it? 2008-05-23T18:49:51 the Special:Preferences page... some weird float issues, or something 2008-05-23T18:52:33 ianweller: don't go making db or wiki edits yet. I may decide to re-import the whole thing again. 2008-05-23T18:52:43 ok. i'm just doing css 2008-05-23T18:54:01 ianweller: excellent. 2008-05-23T19:01:08 *** vpv_ has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T19:02:06 *** devrimgunduz has quit IRC 2008-05-23T19:05:51 *** bashohII has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T19:09:57 ianweller: the attachment uploads are flying along now as well. 2008-05-23T19:10:07 swweeeeet. 2008-05-23T19:10:12 ianweller: ricky: so, as far as I'm concerned. I don't see any blockers at this point. 2008-05-23T19:10:21 everything seems to be up and going. I'm going to let the attachments finish. 2008-05-23T19:10:32 Then our pre-deploy is ready. 2008-05-23T19:10:44 ianweller: how many changes do we need to make to the css? 2008-05-23T19:10:52 * ricky will hopefully have the ingredients for a FAS release very soon. 2008-05-23T19:11:03 i just changed a few lines to fix the prefs page 2008-05-23T19:11:06 I'm just looking at passing info now. 2008-05-23T19:11:07 other than that i see no issues 2008-05-23T19:11:14 excellent. 2008-05-23T19:11:25 ianweller: you're a php guy right? 2008-05-23T19:11:30 mmcgrath: i know PHP, yes 2008-05-23T19:11:34 so is the openid in fas working now? 2008-05-23T19:11:39 ianweller: k 2008-05-23T19:11:58 i'm porting an IRC log to html script (in python) to a MW extension 2008-05-23T19:12:02 on pt2 2008-05-23T19:12:15 solid 2008-05-23T19:12:38 Um... 2008-05-23T19:12:38 httpd: Objects/stringobject.c:107: PyString_FromString: Assertion `str != ((void *)0)' failed. 2008-05-23T19:12:52 (Very weird error from my home setup) 2008-05-23T19:13:22 ricky: Assertion error. thats fun. 2008-05-23T19:13:29 ricky: can you reliably recreate it? 2008-05-23T19:13:36 mmcgrath: Nope :-/] 2008-05-23T19:13:51 yow... on fas? 2008-05-23T19:14:11 ricky: how often have you gotten it? 2008-05-23T19:14:16 Yeah, I'd probably move to blame it on mod_wsgi first. 2008-05-23T19:14:18 mmcgrath: Just that once 2008-05-23T19:14:36 mmcgrath: Oops, twice. 2008-05-23T19:14:40 hmmm 2008-05-23T19:14:45 check your memory usage and stuff. 2008-05-23T19:14:51 I got one yesterday that I didn't see. 2008-05-23T19:15:41 mmcgrath: Anything in particular that I should look for? 2008-05-23T19:16:13 ricky: not really, I generally have seen assertion errors w/ tg only when the system was under unusual load or low on resources. 2008-05-23T19:16:23 mmcgrath: re the .id.fp.o sites, i don't think that it'll work quite the way it was set up 2008-05-23T19:16:26 I don't see any particular anomalies. 2008-05-23T19:17:23 jcollie: I wasn't sure if it would or not, the alternative is to have it generate html pages similar to what ricky has at ricky.fedorapeople.org 2008-05-23T19:17:44 yeah, i've got the same on my fp.o page 2008-05-23T19:18:06 i saw something in the openid spec, i think, where the httpd can send headesrs. 2008-05-23T19:18:09 headers* 2008-05-23T19:18:11 *** glezos has quit IRC 2008-05-23T19:18:20 http://wiki.openid.net/Delegation 2008-05-23T19:18:20 that signal a particular openid server/ident 2008-05-23T19:19:57 hmm yeah the current stuff is doing some proxying that doesn't quite work... 2008-05-23T19:20:55 yeah lets just create some simple html pages 2008-05-23T19:21:15 * mmcgrath bbiab 2008-05-23T19:21:18 although, i think it should check to see that its a valid FAS name when you access it 2008-05-23T19:21:47 We could make it a trivial CGI script if we had to. 2008-05-23T19:22:24 it should be pretty easy to do... lemme see if i can hack something up quickly 2008-05-23T19:23:15 Actually.. 2008-05-23T19:23:43 Maybe we'd want to point it somewhere under FAS (to do the user checking and to obtain basic user info) 2008-05-23T19:23:52 isn't that what we would be doing with the html tags? 2008-05-23T19:24:15 yeah, i've got an idea for something in FAS 2008-05-23T19:24:17 As in, have FAS handle the pages under *.id.fp.o 2008-05-23T19:24:26 ricky: yeah exactly 2008-05-23T19:28:21 *** daMaestro has quit IRC 2008-05-23T19:32:48 *** stickster is now known as stickster_afk 2008-05-23T19:33:26 *** stickster_afk is now known as stickster 2008-05-23T19:37:11 jcollie: ricky: worksforme 2008-05-23T19:38:56 *** warthog9 has quit IRC 2008-05-23T19:41:02 *** leenuxg33k has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T19:43:32 mmcgrath: okay, what I wanted to talk to you about before was getting ready for a testing deployment of the elections/voting app 2008-05-23T19:44:10 G: sure thing, whats up? 2008-05-23T19:44:41 https://fedorahosted.org/elections/wiki/PublicTesting thats what I've got on the 'todo' list so far 2008-05-23T19:46:02 *** stickster is now known as stickster_afk 2008-05-23T19:47:47 *** juank_prada has quit IRC 2008-05-23T19:48:07 http://jcollie.fedorapeople.org/fas.git should have some stuff for the delegation 2008-05-23T19:48:12 *** juank_prada has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T19:48:47 G: what do you have against pt10? 2008-05-23T19:48:52 :) 2008-05-23T19:49:59 it has 2 digits for a number. 2008-05-23T19:50:00 unlucky! 2008-05-23T19:50:08 mmcgrath: nothing in particular, just throught with the wiki & openid testing that frequent oddities mightn't be a good idea, I can live with pt10 though 2008-05-23T19:50:41 G: naw, that'll be done come tuesday 2008-05-23T19:51:06 jcollie: For Fedora's OpenID provider, do you think we'll need any of the idSelect or loginasdifferentuser stuff? 2008-05-23T19:51:24 ricky: i have no idea 2008-05-23T19:53:23 Hm, I don't think so, I'll cut that stuff from just the FAS version. 2008-05-23T19:53:44 mmcgrath: okay, so am I able to setup a new group in FAS or do I need you to? 2008-05-23T19:54:22 G: See if you have a link in the left bar. 2008-05-23T19:54:29 yep I do 2008-05-23T19:54:33 Then you can :-) 2008-05-23T19:54:44 G: I can do that. What do you want it to be called? elections-admins 2008-05-23T19:55:05 hmmm it's already created as 'elections' 2008-05-23T19:55:32 oh, well there you have it :) 2008-05-23T19:55:46 right, now for a dummy fas account 2008-05-23T19:56:09 any ideas for naming? 2008-05-23T19:56:44 .fas fedoradummy 2008-05-23T19:56:45 mmcgrath: fedoradummy 'Fedora Test Account' 2008-05-23T19:57:08 oh we already have one 2008-05-23T20:00:21 we have it all :) 2008-05-23T20:02:24 *** jeckersb has quit IRC 2008-05-23T20:05:08 * ricky goes to dinner - will be back in a bit. 2008-05-23T20:05:31 mmcgrath: http://dpaste.com/52374/ 2008-05-23T20:05:36 does that look sane? 2008-05-23T20:06:04 ricky, when your back, can you lookie over: https://fedorahosted.org/elections/wiki/PublicTesting quickly 2008-05-23T20:06:28 jcollie: I think so yes. 2008-05-23T20:06:51 I don't remember if we allow uppercase in account names or not 2008-05-23T20:07:08 doh! cvs up != svn up 2008-05-23T20:07:32 hmm allowing mixed case in usernames could be a problem 2008-05-23T20:07:41 yeah 2008-05-23T20:07:47 I'm pretty sure we don't, just not 100% sure 2008-05-23T20:07:48 esp since JCOLLIE.id.fp.o == jcollie.id.fp.o 2008-05-23T20:14:36 *** jmtaylor has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T20:21:04 mmcgrath: oh btw, for that dummy account to be useful (i.e. so I can use it with the identity provider) can you pass me the the password? 2008-05-23T20:22:02 G: what did you need the dummy account for again? (IE what can you do with it that you can't do with your account) ? 2008-05-23T20:22:44 unless I'm mistaken the FAS Identity provider needs a user/pass? 2008-05-23T20:22:55 it doesn't :) 2008-05-23T20:23:21 it doesn't! hmmmm, try that again... 2008-05-23T20:23:23 *** dundel has quit IRC 2008-05-23T20:27:16 mmcgrath: okay, I stand corrected 2008-05-23T20:27:49 we talked about adding one but decided not to since a scraper on the front page would work just as easily. 2008-05-23T20:30:40 that means I just need fas.baseurl in the config right? 2008-05-23T20:31:25 G: I believe so, yes. 2008-05-23T20:32:58 okay, do you mind if (since I'll be using the live FAS) setup admin.fp.o/elections-test > pt10/elections? 2008-05-23T20:34:30 actually if you can, set it up to use the account system on pt10 2008-05-23T20:36:23 *** jmtaylor has quit IRC 2008-05-23T20:36:48 *** nehal has quit IRC 2008-05-23T20:37:11 *** nehal_ has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T20:37:19 mmcgrath: any particular reason, so far I have, but I'd like to open up the test-ability a little bit more, I don't mind either way thuogh 2008-05-23T20:37:54 G: always best not to use real passwords and usernames unless its absolutely required. 2008-05-23T20:41:18 err actually, that might stuff it up a (little) bit, because of the groups checking thing 2008-05-23T20:48:52 hmmm yeah, I'd have to shortcircuit that check 2008-05-23T20:49:41 mmcgrath: Definitely no mixed case. 2008-05-23T20:49:54 mmcgrath: It's lowercase alphanumeric, 1st character can't be a number. 2008-05-23T20:51:48 ricky: I just wasn't sure if anything had been grandfathered in, I don't think it has. 2008-05-23T20:51:50 G: Looks good 2008-05-23T20:52:09 * ricky is relatively sure that it was in FAS1 too 2008-05-23T20:52:12 *** spoleeba has quit IRC 2008-05-23T20:52:33 Ah, yeah: [a-z][a-z0-9]+ 2008-05-23T20:54:11 Very close to sreg :-) 2008-05-23T20:54:30 Unfortunately, there will be FAS-specific code. 2008-05-23T20:56:03 After this is in, we just need to fix that stupid /accounts/accounts/ bug. 2008-05-23T20:59:43 *** asgeirf_ has quit IRC 2008-05-23T21:10:08 what is the /accounts/accounts/ bug? 2008-05-23T21:11:44 ianweller: When you try to login to the OpenID provider (without being logged into FAS), it'll take you to a login page. When you successfully login there, it redirects you to /accounts/accounts/stuff instead of /accounts/stuff 2008-05-23T21:11:55 weird. 2008-05-23T21:12:05 and you haven't found it, i assume? 2008-05-23T21:12:06 Yeah :-( 2008-05-23T21:12:19 the code for this is on fedorahosted.org, right? 2008-05-23T21:12:30 Nope, but I haven't looked too deep either - I'm concentrating on getting sreg first. 2008-05-23T21:12:36 ok. 2008-05-23T21:12:39 Yup, git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fas.git 2008-05-23T21:12:52 Hehe, 4 "git"s in that URL. 2008-05-23T21:13:10 i think it might be git. 2008-05-23T21:13:17 no! it must be svn! :P 2008-05-23T21:13:38 Its funny too, two of those are part of the git protocol (the first and last) 2008-05-23T21:13:47 maybe the last one is more of a 'standard' 2008-05-23T21:14:03 Well, the last seems to be more of a convention (to signify that it's not a full tree, I assume) 2008-05-23T21:14:38 Decisions decisions. The cubs game is on. But so is The Hunt for Red October. 2008-05-23T21:15:21 Hehe. 2008-05-23T21:15:47 * ricky starts to really love the world clock in GNOME> 2008-05-23T21:15:49 **GNOME 2008-05-23T21:16:12 yeah :D 2008-05-23T21:16:13 abadger1999: You're in California, right? 2008-05-23T21:17:37 *** kwizart has quit IRC 2008-05-23T21:20:34 could it be that 'url' in OpenID.login() (line 200, openid_samadhi.py) contains /accounts at the beginning? 2008-05-23T21:20:42 * ianweller is just guessing random things 2008-05-23T21:22:12 The url variable there comes from line 50 (request.browser_url) 2008-05-23T21:22:51 * ianweller is seeing that on line 108 2008-05-23T21:22:54 I'd like to know if that contains a correct URL (I don't see any reason that it wouldn't) 2008-05-23T21:23:11 Oops, don't know where I got 50 from. 2008-05-23T21:23:26 Oh, I was looking at the column, sorry. 2008-05-23T21:32:19 man i really wanna fix the tabs on special:preferences. they look so halfassed 2008-05-23T21:32:27 they come straight from the default mw theme, too 2008-05-23T21:35:50 mmcgrath: looks like the message boxes are screwed up again 2008-05-23T21:36:05 Woohoo, sreg works! 2008-05-23T21:36:52 \o/ 2008-05-23T21:37:17 allright 2008-05-23T21:38:18 ianweller: message boxes? 2008-05-23T21:38:38 *** nman64 has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T21:38:38 mmcgrath: {{message/notice}} 2008-05-23T21:38:44 jcollie: Merging those into samadhi in a moment. 2008-05-23T21:38:45 they don't use the templates, they're transferring over wrong 2008-05-23T21:39:04 i just did some cleanups so you might get some conflicts 2008-05-23T21:39:07 ah, looking now. 2008-05-23T21:39:18 jcollie: Ah, I'll make sure to pull first. 2008-05-23T21:39:24 *** juank_prada has quit IRC 2008-05-23T21:39:32 f'ing hell. The tables have been the worst part of this whole mess. 2008-05-23T21:39:54 yup. 2008-05-23T21:39:56 i hate moin 2008-05-23T21:40:17 * ricky goes to do some more manual merging. 2008-05-23T21:43:04 ug, the gettext stuff is kinda ugly 2008-05-23T21:48:10 jcollie: Yeah, unfortunately, it's the only thing that I can do now, until the string extraction stops chopping sentences up 2008-05-23T21:48:41 babel isn't the best either but at least the XML looks clean 2008-05-23T21:49:29 Yeah, but we have tags inside of tags. I'd rather torture myself+FAS developers a bit than force translators to do guessing. 2008-05-23T21:50:01 jcollie: Just merged all of your changes into FAS's openid_samadhi, I'm going to merge the sreg changes from FAS to samadhi now. 2008-05-23T21:50:10 Er, after I test that it works. 2008-05-23T21:50:17 cool, let's see if i broke anything :) 2008-05-23T21:51:03 yadis_base_url isn't defined. 2008-05-23T21:51:18 argh, doh i knew i missed something 2008-05-23T21:51:34 Should that be yadis_url? 2008-05-23T21:51:38 i reverted that line so that another patch would look a bit cleaner 2008-05-23T21:52:08 no , i'll fix in a sec here 2008-05-23T21:53:01 ok, patch should be out there 2008-05-23T21:53:18 poelcat: ping 2008-05-23T21:54:29 how often do the proxy servers get reloaded? 2008-05-23T21:54:53 jcollie: What do you mean by reload? 2008-05-23T21:55:26 i made a change to the *.id.fedoraproject.org and i was wondering if the change had taken effect 2008-05-23T21:55:46 jcollie: Oh, then puppet runs every 30 minutes. 2008-05-23T21:56:03 (or immediately, if you run make HOSTS='proxy1 proxy2 proxy3 proxy4' push 2008-05-23T21:56:30 hmm something's funky then, because i get a blank page if i wget http://jcollie.id.fedoraproject.org/ 2008-05-23T21:56:34 ianweller: poelcat is on vacation 2008-05-23T21:56:38 ah. 2008-05-23T21:56:48 is there something i could help with or do you need him? 2008-05-23T21:57:00 just had an inquiry on his request for an IRC log plugin for MW. 2008-05-23T21:57:21 ahh, yes - is there one? That'd be awesome 2008-05-23T21:57:28 jcollie: Did you make install? 2008-05-23T21:57:40 yes, i think so 2008-05-23T21:57:53 yep 2008-05-23T21:58:16 i'll do a push anyway 2008-05-23T21:59:06 jds2001: no there isn't one, i'm writing one :D 2008-05-23T21:59:23 jds2001: i just need a large sample of IRC logs to test with 2008-05-23T21:59:28 :) 2008-05-23T21:59:35 i can give you mine 2008-05-23T21:59:46 ianweller: fedora infrastructure :) 2008-05-23T21:59:49 do all of 'em pretty much look like irssi? 2008-05-23T21:59:53 jcollie: yeah i'm using those too :D 2008-05-23T22:00:02 no 2008-05-23T22:00:16 xchat is fairly common 2008-05-23T22:00:35 i'll need an oodle of xchat logs then 2008-05-23T22:00:46 * jds2001 not sure if pidgin can log or not. 2008-05-23T22:01:24 anyone here use xchat? 2008-05-23T22:01:38 maybe i could make an announcement to some list 2008-05-23T22:01:38 i use xchat-gnome... 2008-05-23T22:01:40 dunno which one 2008-05-23T22:01:46 going once, going, twice, NO! :) 2008-05-23T22:02:00 or rather jcollie does - give ianweller some logs :) 2008-05-23T22:02:05 some of the F-I logs were captured by meself 2008-05-23T22:02:05 :D 2008-05-23T22:02:09 er myself 2008-05-23T22:02:21 with xchat and xchat-gnome 2008-05-23T22:02:24 if you can find 'em for me and your note busy that would be sweet 2008-05-23T22:03:19 mostly the differences are gonna be in the time format 2008-05-23T22:03:26 or even the existence of a timestamp 2008-05-23T22:03:35 i think i have this huge regex to deal with both of those 2008-05-23T22:03:39 i stole it from irclog2html.py 2008-05-23T22:03:54 $wgIRCLogTimeRegexp = "@^\[?((?:\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}T|\d{2}-\w{3}-\d{4} |\w{3} \d{2} )?\d\d:\d\d(:\d\d)?)\]? +@"; 2008-05-23T22:04:02 i don't want to have to debug that. ever. 2008-05-23T22:04:13 that makes my brain hurt even looking at it. 2008-05-23T22:04:16 * ricky would rather see a supybot plugin that gives logs in MW syntax. 2008-05-23T22:04:29 ooh, i could write that too. 2008-05-23T22:04:32 i thought someone mentioned that one of those existed. 2008-05-23T22:04:33 ianweller: what's your email? 2008-05-23T22:04:39 .fas ianweller 2008-05-23T22:04:40 ianweller: ianweller 'Ian Weller' 2008-05-23T22:04:45 *** susmit has joined #fedora-admin 2008-05-23T22:04:46 or at least a supybot log plugin 2008-05-23T22:04:51 yeah i mentioned that 2008-05-23T22:04:54 the ChannelLogger plugin exists 2008-05-23T22:05:15 i think we may as well just set that up for #fedora-meeting and put the logs online somewhere. outside of the wiki 2008-05-23T22:05:26 fedoraproject.org/logs/YYYY/MM/DD.html 2008-05-23T22:05:34 * ricky agrees. 2008-05-23T22:05:44 2nds that 2008-05-23T22:05:52 Yeah, no need to even bother with MW syntax, good old HTML. 2008-05-23T22:05:52 * jds2001 3rds that 2008-05-23T22:06:04 we could then use pisg to generate channel stats for various channels too 2008-05-23T22:06:12 ricky: the current plan for the MW plugin was to just enclose the log in and the plugin would do the rest ;) 2008-05-23T22:06:23 www.delhage.se/rhelstats 2008-05-23T22:06:38 Even more ideally, the bot would have meeting start/end commands, and start/end HTML files based on that. 2008-05-23T22:06:43 G: i figure we'd just log #fedora-meeting. although i know some channels have meetings outside #fedora-meeting 2008-05-23T22:06:51 we might need a 2nd channel if we wanna do it like this 2008-05-23T22:07:02 ricky: but then you have people who forget the commands. ;) 2008-05-23T22:07:07 jds2001: yeah, like that 2008-05-23T22:07:39 The commands could be listed in /topi 2008-05-23T22:07:41 **/topic 2008-05-23T22:08:00 ianweller: ok, a few irc logs on the way 2008-05-23T22:08:06 jcollie: sweet 2008-05-23T22:08:55 can someone with access to the proxy servers see what's up with *.id.fedoraproject.org? 2008-05-23T22:12:33 i think that instead of having start/stop commands for logging, we should have two meeting channels with always on logging. 2008-05-23T22:12:44 jcollie: Would the ServerName id.fedoraproject.org allow *.id.fedoraproject.org to go to it? 2008-05-23T22:13:01 don't you have to add another thing for *.id.fedoraproject.org? 2008-05-23T22:13:17 ianweller: That would work too, the logs would just include include stuff outside of a particular meeting. 2008-05-23T22:13:18 hmm i dunno could be... i'd have to check the apache docs 2008-05-23T22:13:31 ricky: i think that would be ok. 2008-05-23T22:13:44 maybe we can integrate the meeting schedule with it and have anchors for when particular meetings are supposed to start 2008-05-23T22:14:02 jcollie: I'm going to try a ServerAlias *.id.fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T22:14:41 ricky: yeah that should work: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#serveralias 2008-05-23T22:15:18 firefox couldn't find the server at id.fedoraproject.org. is id.fedoraproject.org not pointing anywhere, is it just *.id.fedoraproject.org? 2008-05-23T22:15:36 Oh, did we not make the DNS changes? 2008-05-23T22:16:01 Oh, we don't have DNS for id.fp.o 2008-05-23T22:16:02 no, dns is there, but id.fedoraproject.org points to nothing 2008-05-23T22:16:05 ianweller: meetings runover and stuff like that.... 2008-05-23T22:16:15 you need .id.fedoraproject.org 2008-05-23T22:16:36 jds2001: it would just be an HTML anchor at the start of the meeting 2008-05-23T22:17:12 * ricky adds that. 2008-05-23T22:17:49 * ianweller can't remember the format of the supybot log 2008-05-23T22:18:00 I've got it, hold on 2008-05-23T22:19:30 * susmit thinks if there is any way to find a list of wikiusers (like fas)? 2008-05-23T22:19:34 2008-05-24T01:39:09 New news from wtf: Best of the Sidebar: The Upgrade Treadmill 2008-05-23T22:19:58 ianweller: Ideally, you'd be modify the plugin to output directly in HTML and text versions. 2008-05-23T22:20:02 **be able to 2008-05-23T22:20:10 ideally, yes 2008-05-23T22:20:19 i was just thinking write a script that does that too 2008-05-23T22:20:37 have a cron job that converts it and then scps it to the proper host 2008-05-23T22:20:40 Or it might even be confirable already. 2008-05-23T22:21:01 * ianweller checks 2008-05-23T22:21:04 Aw, or maybe not. 2008-05-23T22:21:32 But ideally, we'd run the supybot on a fedora server and just point the proxies to wherever it stores the logs. 2008-05-23T22:21:46 zodbot is a supybot. 2008-05-23T22:21:52 theoreticlaly the plugin would work with it 2008-05-23T22:21:53 I know 2008-05-23T22:21:59 i dunno where zodbot is hosted 2008-05-23T22:22:06 but zodbot aint on a fedora server 2008-05-23T22:22:08 On mmcgrath's slicehost, it seems (not fedora) 2008-05-23T22:22:13 hrmm 2008-05-23T22:22:15 I'll get you a copy 2008-05-23T22:22:15 it's on mmcgrath's box 2008-05-23T22:22:22 mmcgrath: sweet 2008-05-23T22:22:36 * ricky has a package review open for supybot if we want to get it into infrastructure :-) 2008-05-23T22:22:45 mmcgrath: is it possible to move zodbot to a fedora server then?